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« on: August 27, 2008, 09:38:47 AM »

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/082708dnmetabercrombie.4027698.html

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By JESSICA MEYERS / The Dallas Morning News
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There's no in between. You're either Abercrombie hot – or you're not.

Kristen Carmichael discovered she didn't fit the clothing store's self-described "sexy, effortless style" when she was pulled from a sales position on the floor of the NorthPark Center store and shoved back to the stockroom to fold clothes.

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Joshuah Welch (cq), a manger with Abercrombie in North Park Mall, was recently told not to return to work until his hair was a more normal color. Mr. Welch, a former star of the CBS show "Big Brother," said he was told that his hair, which has new blonde highlights, was not a suitable image that Abercrombie wished to portray. Mr. Welch posed for pictures Friday afternoon in the Uptown area of Dallas, Texas.
View larger Photography Photo store This was after they'd rated her face.

The college student who was in Dallas for the summer and her female co-worker had received a 0 ranking on a district manager's monthly audit. The report, posted on a wall in the office, included the question, "Do all female models currently working have beautiful faces?"

There were two choices, 0 and 5, with the higher number signifying an approval rating for the models – an Abercrombie & Fitch term for sales representatives. The same question for the male models had both 0 and 5 marked – a mix.

"It's so subjective how they judge you," said Ms. Carmichael, a 19-year-old brunette with sharp blue-green eyes and a trim, athletic build, who was told by one manager that she wasn't attractive enough to work on the floor.

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The debate centers on the ethics of labeling teenage beauty more than on the possibility of unlawful actions. At issue is whether it's morally justifiable to define an "Abercrombie look" these days, three years after a lawsuit settlement forced the retailer to enhance diversity and amid ongoing debate about Abercrombie's marketing practices, which often include shirtless young men and wistful-looking women in thin outer garments.

Todd Corley, Abercrombie's vice president of diversity and inclusion, said the "face" question refers to the full presentation of an individual, not merely his or her visage.

The company says it is important to uphold the brand's image and maintain diversity in its stores. Some sales representatives are chosen to appear in posters, ads and other marketing materials.


'Hierarchy of hotness'

Sales people function as the store's advertising and are handpicked by current employees, said Joshuah Welch, a 26-year-old Dallas resident, was hired two weeks ago as a manager and told to recruit people who walked into the store looking "all-American, clean, wholesome, or the girl or boy next door." He said stocking employees, on the other hand, are told not to speak to customers.

"It's a hierarchy of hotness," he said.

Cory Payne thought he reached the upper tier when he was recruited as a "model," or salesman, at the Dallas store. Then he found himself in the back storeroom.

"It wasn't the job we signed up for," said the tall 22-year-old blond athlete. "We showed up on time and we felt we were being punished for being good employees."

A weekly "secret shopper" evaluation posted in the back room also focuses on appearance. Employees receive one point for a "yes" to the questions, "Was the person in the women's front room attractive?" and "Was the cashier attractive?"

These rating systems remain legal as long as they don't discriminate based on race or gender.

"There's no real problem to discriminate against 'ugly' people," said Jahan Sagafi, a partner at Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, the firm that represented the plaintiffs in the original diversity suit. "The problem is when you define beauty to incorporate white, which it essentially does at Abercrombie."

Ms. Carmichael and Mr. Payne are both white and say they don't expect legal or financial compensation. Instead, they believe their demotion signifies a disturbingly shallow mentality in youth-focused retail.

The job is "a cattle call and you are hired based on looks, not your ability to fold clothes or work with people," Mr. Welch said.


Fitting a mold

He just quit his managerial training program at the NorthPark store after his bosses told him he would have to leave if he didn't get rid of his new blond highlights.

"I need a job where I am appreciated for the work I do, not because I fit into their mold," said Mr. Welch, who previously worked for Abercrombie in Austin before appearing on a season of the CBS reality show Big Brother.

"I thought they had evolved, but they haven't," he said.

The company agreed in 2005 to pay $40 million to a group of Latinos, blacks, Asians and females who accused the company of advancing whites at the expense of minorities.


Working on diversity

Company representatives say they're fostering a much more diverse and accepting workplace since the lawsuit, with about 32 percent of the floor staff now either Asian, black or Latino.

Last spring, the company – which has more than 1,000 stores and 88,000 employees nationwide – created a new "look book," a collection of images for managers to refer to when hiring.

"It's an array of faces – black, white, Hispanic," Mr. Corley said. "It gives a sense of style, dress. It goes to a whole standard of appearance."

Although the company has hired a diversity coordinator and promoted more minorities to management positions, it's unclear to what extent Abercrombie has adapted its image.

A court-appointed monitor wrote in his second annual compliance report last August that images of Asians and Latinos were "almost entirely absent" in Abercrombie's marketing. A third compliance report is due at the end of the month. Earlier this month, a civil rights group filed a lawsuit on behalf of a Muslim teenager in Oklahoma who alleged she was denied a job because she wears a headscarf.


Unintended bias

Even physical evaluations can tread on shaky ground because they often unintentionally discriminate, said Greg Gochanour, a lawyer with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the supervising trial attorney on the 2005 case.

He called the rating system "bizarre" and said he hasn't heard of other companies with this type of audit.

The streamlined image book in each store is intended to take out bias, said Mr. Corley, as are partnerships with organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League. The company also is working with Georgetown University to establish the country's first diversity management program.

Ms. Carmichael, who is back at school in Arizona, said that even if the company isn't technically violating the law, it's still sending the wrong message.

"It just seems so superficial and kind of stupid," she said. "I don't think I'm the most attractive person in the world, but I don't think I'm so hideous you have to shove me into a back room."

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2008, 09:40:57 AM »

Wow...
this seems insane to me.
Seriously taking "you are not pretty enough" to another horrible level.
I'm 5 ft 2... by virtue of that alone I would never have gotten a job in their stores. Can  you imagine? It's silly!

If I can teach my four year old not to discriminate I would appreciate it if major corporations and the rest of the world would get on board. Is it too much to ask? (clearly it is!)
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 10:13:34 PM »

No wonder kids and teenagers think they are not pretty enough.  We have corporations shoving in their face saying you are not good enough or pretty enough.  I never shop here because the one time i went into the store I felt like I did not belong.  No greeting, I felt ignored.  I hope this place shuts down because you should not profit from belittling people.
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2008, 09:28:48 AM »

I don't shop there because I don't appreciate their ads which I feel are sexually exploitive... and innapropriate for the age group that shops there.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2008, 10:14:46 AM »

It's amazing they can get away with this Sad
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2008, 07:31:49 PM »

This is something that just irks me beyond belief!  I saw this story ran on the local news (here in the Dallas area) and there was a young gal with a small dog saying "YEah, you don't want someone working there who doesn't wear their clothes. Do you?"

I think its a HORRIBLE thing in retail! And unfortunately I know from experience that it happens all too often., and unfortunately not only in retail.  Several businesses are somewhat apprehensive about hiring "newly re-entering the work force" mommies, too.

Sorry, I'll step down off my lil' soap box now.  giggle
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 07:01:58 PM »

This kind of makes me think of Hooters too.  They obvisously have a very specific group of females they are looking for to work in their resturants.
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 04:24:02 PM »

Interesting, but unfortunately, not all that surprising....
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 04:57:50 PM »

It is sad that this would happen...however, I remember reading some time ago that a lawsuit was filed against Abercrombie and Finch by fired employees for this very thing, but never heard if anything came of it.  If I can find the article I will post it. 

With this type of attitude among major corporations, it is no wonder that young men and women feel inadequate and unpopular.  After all they don't all fit the "image" of the perfect person. 

Of course 100 years ago fat was in, and skinny was out.  So who knows we might all be popular again in 10-15 years.  It does go in cycles.
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 08:58:12 AM »

Oooooh Nancy!  I so can't wait until fat comes back in--I'd finally be one of the 'popular' kids.

My nickname in jr. high was fatso.

My opinion of Abercrombie is go ahead and do what you want--we are free country--because I'm going to go ahead and do what I want -which is teach the value of education and human kindness, because let's face it, even the prettiest grow old and then what?  They too will be cast among the ugly, but unfortunately they will not have any friends left because of their 'beautiful' selves in their hayday.

Why can't people just be nice? 
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